Meet The Radeon VII

First things first is the design and build, and for the AMD Radeon VII, we've already noticed the biggest change: an open air cooler. Keeping the sleek brushed metal look of the previous RX Vega 64 Limited Edition and Liquid variants, they've forgone the blower for a triple axial fan setup, the standard custom AIB configuration for high-end cards.

While NVIDIA's GeForce RTX series went this way with open-air dual-fan coolers, AMD is no stranger to changing things up themselves. Aside from the RX Vega 64 Liquid, the R9 Fury X's AIO CLC was also quite impressive for a reference design. But as we mentioned with the Founders Edition cards, moving away from blowers for open-air means adopting a cooling configuration that can no longer guarantee complete self-cooling. That is, cooling effectiveness won't be independent of chassis airflow, or lack thereof. This is usually an issue for large OEMs that configure machines assuming blower-style cards, but this is less the case for the highest-end cards, which for pre-builts tend to come from boutique system integrators.

The move to open-air does benefit higher TDP, and at 300W TBP the Radeon VII is indeed one for higher power consumption. While 5W more than the RX Vega 64, there's presumably more localized heat with two more HBM2 stacks, plus the fact that the same amount of power is being consumed but on a smaller die area. And at 300W TBP, this would mean that all power-savings from the smaller process were re-invested into performance. If higher clockspeeds are where the Radeon VII is bringing the majority of its speedup over RX Vega 64, then there would be little alternative to abandoning the blower.

Returning to the Radeon VII build, then, the card naturally has dual 8-pin PCIe connectors, but lacks the BIOS switch of the RX Vega cards that toggled a lower-power BIOS. And with the customary LEDs, the 'Radeon' on the side lights up, as does the 'R' cube in the corner.

In terms of display outputs, there are no surprises here with 3x DisplayPort and 1x HDMI.

A few teardowns of the card elsewhere revealed a vapor chamber configuration with a thermal pad for the TIM, rather than the usual paste. While lower-performing in terms of heat transfer, we know that the RX Vega cards ended up having molded and unmolded package variants, requiring specific instructions to manufacturers on the matter. So this might be a way to head off potential ASIC height difference issues.

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  • Samus - Sunday, February 10, 2019 - link

    BenSkywalker, the short answer is this is based on a dated architecture (2 generations behind Turing) so there is no real way it's going to beat it in efficiency: It doesn't even try to compete with the 2080Ti.

    But the fact that a GCN\Vega-based card can nearly tie a 2080 is commendable. I think the problem this card has is it's $100 too expensive.
  • BenSkywalker - Monday, February 18, 2019 - link

    If we were comparing ray traced performance that would be a valid point, but we are talking about traditional rendering. They have a half node process advantage and are using more power than a 2080 by a comfortable amount.

    Try finding another chip, CPU or gpu that was built with a half node advantage, used more power *and* was slower.

    Either TSMC is having major problems with 7nm or AMD set a new standard for poor engineering in this segment.
  • Ganjir - Saturday, February 9, 2019 - link

    It is a shame the infinity fabric is disabled, because crossfire would actually give these cards a reason to use ALL of that bandwidth and capacity - at least on one card. Is there a way to enable this or is it a hardware limitation?
  • Alistair - Saturday, February 9, 2019 - link

    I calculate OxfordGuy has made 11 percent of all comments in this thread ;)
  • Zingam - Sunday, February 10, 2019 - link

    AMD should invest in power stations. And maybe even sell their future Radeon XIV in a bundle with a little power station!
  • Crion66 - Sunday, February 10, 2019 - link

    Nate or Ian, can AMD choose to enable pci-express 4.0 on this card when Ryzen/TR4 3000 is released?
    Also can crossfire be implemented by popular gamer demand?
  • ccfly - Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - link

    did anyone test this card in c4d ,radeon pro vs octane for speed ?
  • peevee - Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - link

    "Though AMD hasn’t made a big deal of it up to now, Vega 20 is actually their first PCI-Express 4.0-capable GPU, and this functionality is enabled on the Radeon Instinct cards. However for Radeon VII, this isn’t being enabled, and the card is being limited to PCIe 3.0 speeds"

    Oh God, how much I hate marketoids! Morons who cannot get an A even in the primitive school math are hired into marketing depts, and ruin EVERYTHING.

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