NVIDIA Reveals New SHIELD TV: Tegra X1+, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos

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• eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link

  NVIDIA, you're lazy bums! What, only a die shrink, and not even an attempt at a more recent BIG ARM core? Not even trying anymore!

• MadDuffy - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link

  Correction: SHIELD TV Pro (2019) now lacks micro sd card slot.

• wrkingclass_hero - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link

  Amazing how virtually no progress has been made in the last 4 years. Several steps back too.

• Alistair - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link

  Party like it is 2014, Note 4 style, with the nVidia Shield 2019.

• Beaver M. - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  What do you want?
  8K120 support? A CPU that can emulate a i9-9900K PC? A GPU as fast as a 2080 Ti?
  Please... this is still the best streaming multimedia player you can get. And even for enthusiasts it offers pretty much everything.

• BenSkywalker - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  I miss the IR functionality, I still have a launch Shield I use hooked up to my main AV setup and my Harmony Ultimate works with it, but won't with newer versions(17 or 19). Yes, that does matter considering my remote control costs more then a new Shield Pro.
  
  Yes I can use the Shield remote or controller, my phone or Google Home but I like one remote for everything.

• Yojimbo - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  It's cheaper and much smaller. It also has a much more mature platform than the raw device that one was paying for 4 years ago. The target market of the offering has shifted as NVIDIA has learned who the market is. It now comes with a remote instead of a controller, and the remote is supposedly improved over the original remote one had to pay extra for in 2015. They were probably hoping to add value with game sales in some way or another at the time of their 2015 launch. The only thing that matters as far as the price is how does the current device compare to the current competition at its current price point.

• Alistair - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  I really can't stand the hyping. Here's the first video with benchmarks. 2-15 percent faster, never 25 percent (memory bandwidth is too limited unlike with the Tegra X2?)
  
  2 percent faster for gfxbench Manhattan. 3 percent for T-rex. Enjoy the video:
  
  https://youtu.be/AYN4LUwXMxw?t=410

• Beaver M. - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  But why does it really have to be faster anyway?
  The old one was fast enough already to display 4K60 HDR content without hiccups.
  
  We all know that a manufacturers claim about performance is always overdone. They always just select one single thing where they can achieve the biggest numbers.
  
  I am just happy that I can actually get the best multi media streaming player for $150 now instead of 200, because I need 2 of them.

• name99 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link

  The "faster" question has to do with whether there is a viable gamer community around this (and whether such a community can form around the Apple TV).
  Sure, if your only use case is displaying content, and that content is decoded in real time by the box, that's fast enough! That's certainly my situation.
  
  Of course there's a slippery slope of additional functionality...
  Most obvious is if you want to add Picture in Picture and now need two decoders (or the decoder to be twice as fast; or you have to provide a horrible user experience where some pairs of streams can support PiP, but not others.
  But then you can start adding things like supporting multi-person Video Chat (think family chat with multiple separated family members on Christmas Day or Thanksgiving day), and now we need even more stream decoders...
  (Nobody, as far as I know, really supports something like the above yet. You can fake it with Apple using AirPlay, likewise I assume on Android, but you still have to use the phone camera.
  The next step in usability is camera support on these media console devices, but that's a tricky issue of where you place the camera... I think it's coming, likely with a separate wireless camera, but we'll see.
  And once you have a camera, you make available a whole lot of "body motion" games likes Wii and DDR. But you now need a kick-ass image processing engine and NPU to extract that body motion from the video stream. And then you want to do that for two bodies...
  
  And that doesn't just have to be for games. One could imagine this sort of thing being part of workout apps [make sure you do the movements correctly] or health apps [keep old people moving, physical therapy].)
  
  And so it goes.