No more mysteries: Apple's G5 versus x86, Mac OS X versus Linux
by Johan De Gelas on June 3, 2005 7:48 AM EST- Posted in
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Micro CPU benchmarks: isolating the FPU
But you can't compare an Intel PC with an Apple. The software might not be optimised the right way." Indeed, it is clear that the Final Cut Pro, owned by Apple, or Adobe Premiere, which is far better optimised for the Intel PC, are not very good choices to compare the G5 with the x86 world.So, before we start with application benchmarks, we performed a few micro benchmarks compiled on all platforms with the same gcc 3.3.3 compiler.
The first one is flops. Flops, programmed by Al Aburto, is a very floating-point intensive benchmark. Analyses show that this benchmark contains:
- 70% floating point instructions;
- only 4% branches; and
- Only 34% of instructions are memory instructions.
Al Aburto, about Flops:
" Flops.c is a 'C' program which attempts to estimate your systems floating-point 'MFLOPS' rating for the FADD, FSUB, FMUL, and FDIV operations based on specific 'instruction mixes' (see table below). The program provides an estimate of PEAK MFLOPS performance by making maximal use of register variables with minimal interaction with main memory. The execution loops are all small so that they will fit in any cache."Flops shows the maximum double precision power that the core has, by making sure that the program fits in the L1-cache. Flops consists of 8 tests, and each test has a different, but well known instruction mix. The most frequently used instructions are FADD (addition), FSUB (subtraction) and FMUL (multiplication). We used gcc -O2 flops.c -o flops to compile flops on each platform.
MODULE | FADD | FSUB | FMUL | FDIV | Powermac G5 2.5 GHz | Powermac G5 2.7 GHz | Xeon Irwindale 3.6 GHz | Xeon Irwindale 3.6 w/o SSE2* | Xeon Galatin 3.06 GHz | Opteron 250 2.4 GHz |
1 | 50% | 0% | 43% | 7% | 1026 | 1104 | 677 | 1103 | 1033 | 1404 |
2 | 43% | 29% | 14% | 14% | 618 | 665 | 328 | 528 | 442 | 843 |
3 | 35% | 12% | 53% | 0% | 2677 | 2890 | 532 | 1088 | 802 | 1955 |
4 | 47% | 0% | 53% | 0% | 486 | 522 | 557 | 777 | 988 | 1856 |
5 | 45% | 0% | 52% | 3% | 628 | 675 | 470 | 913 | 995 | 1831 |
6 | 45% | 0% | 55% | 0% | 851 | 915 | 552 | 904 | 1030 | 1922 |
7 | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 264 | 284 | 358 | 315 | 289 | 562 |
8 | 43% | 0% | 57% | 0% | 860 | 925 | 1031 | 910 | 1062 | 1989 |
Average: | 926 | 998 | 563 | 817 | 830 | 1545 |
The results are quite interesting. First of all, the gcc compiler isn't very good in vectorizing. With vectorizing, we mean generating SIMD (SSE, Altivec) code. From the numbers, it seems like gcc was only capable of using Altivec in one test, the third one. In this test, the G5 really shows superiority compared to the Opteron and especially the Xeons.
The really funny thing is that the new Xeon Irwindale performed better when we disabled support for the SSE-2, and used the "- mfpmath=387" option. It seems that the GCC compiler makes a real mess when it tries to optimise for the SSE-2 instructions. One can, of course, use the Intel compiler, which produces code that is up to twice as fast. But the use of the special Intel compiler isn't widespread in the real world.
Also interesting is that the 3.06 GHz Xeon performs better than the Xeon Irwindale at 3.6 GHz. Running completely out of the L1-cache, the high latency (4 cycles) of the L1-cache of Irwindale hurts performance badly. On the Galatin Xeon, which is similar to Northwood, Flops benefits from the very fast 2-cycle latency.
The conclusion is that the Opteron has, by far, the best FPU, especially when more complex instructions such a FDIV (divisions) are used. When the code is using something close to the ideal 50% FADD/FSUB and 50% FMUL mix and is optimised for Altivec, the G5 can roll its muscles. The normal FPU is rather mediocre though.
Micro CPU benchmarks: isolating the Branch Predictor
To test the branch prediction, we used the benchmark " Queens". Queens is a very well known problem where you have to place n chess Queens on an n x n board. The catch is that no single Queen must be able to attack the other. The exhaustive search strategy for finding a solution to placing the Queens on a chess board so they don't attack each other is the algorithm behind this benchmark, and it contains some very branch intensive code.Queens has about:
- 23% branches
- 45% memory instructions
- No FP operations
RUN TIME (sec) | |
Powermac G5 2.5 GHz | 134.110 |
Xeon Irwindale 3.6 GHz | 125.285 |
Opteron 250 2.4 GHz | 103.159 |
At 2.7 GHz, the G5 was just as fast as the Xeon. It is pretty clear that despite the enormous 31 stage pipeline, the fantastic branch predictor of the "Xeon Pentium 4" is capable of keeping the damage to a minimum. The Opteron's branch predictor seems to be at the level of G5's: the branch misprediction penalty of the G5 is 30% higher, and the Opteron does about 30% better.
The G5 as workstation processor
It is well known that the G5 is a decent workstation CPU. The G5 is probably the fastest CPU when it comes to Adobe After Effects and Final Cut Pro, as this kind of software was made to be run on a PowerMac. Unfortunately, we didn't have access to that kind of software.First, we test with Povray, which is not optimised for any architecture, and single-threaded.
Povray Seconds |
|
Dual Opteron 250 (2.4 GHz) | 804 |
Dual Xeon DP 3.6 GHz | 1169 |
Dual G5 2.5 GHz PowerMac | 1125 |
Dual G5 2.7 GHz PowerMac | 1049 |
Povray runs mostly out of the L2- and L1-caches and mimics almost perfectly what we have witnessed in our Flops benchmarks. As long as there are little or no Altivec or SSE-2 optimisations present, the Opteron is by far the fastest CPU. The G5's FPU is still quite a bit better than the one of the Xeon.
The next two tests are the only 32 bit ones, done in Windows XP on the x86 machines.
Lightwave 8.0 Raytrace |
Lightwave 8.0 Tracer Radiosity |
|
Dual Opteron 250 (2,4 GHz) | 47 | 204 |
Dual Xeon DP 3,6 GHz | 47.3 | 180 |
Dual G5 2,5 GHz PowerMac | 46.5 | 254 |
The G5 is capable of competing in one test. Lightwave rendering engine has been meticulously optimised for SSE-2, and the " Netburst" architecture prevails here. We have no idea how much attention the software engineers gave Altivec, but it doesn't seem to be much. This might of course be a result of Apple's small market share.
Cinema 4D Cinebench |
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Dual Opteron 250 (2.4 GHz) | 630 |
Dual Xeon DP 3.6 GHz | 682 |
Dual G5 2.5 GHz PowerMac | 638 |
Dual G5 2.7 GHz PowerMac | 682 |
Maxon has invested some time and effort to get the Cinema4D engine running well on the G5 and it shows. The G5 competes with the best x86 CPUs.
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seanp789 - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
well thats great and all but yours news says apple is switchign to intel so i dont think much will be changing in the power pc lineupBrazilian Joe - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
I would like to see this Article re-done, with more benches to give a clearer picture. I think MACOS X should be pitched against Darwin in the PPC platform, since there may be hidden differences. Darwin works on x86 too (and x86_64?), it would be very interesting to see the SAME OS under the Mac Platform running on different hardware. And having the software compiled with the same compiler present on Darwin, we should get a more consistent result. Linux and BSD should not be ditched, however. The perfornance difference Of linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD in PPC vs PC is also a very interesting subject to investigate.I think this article, along with all the complaints of inconsistency in the results, sohuld fuel a new series of articles: One, Just comparing Darwin/MacOS X on Both platforms. Another For Linux, using a GCC version as close as possible to that used on Darwin. Another for FreeBSD, and yet another for OpenBSD. The last article Would get everything and summarize. I think this would be much more complete and satisfying/informative for the reader crowd.
iljitsch - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
There seems to be considerable confusion between threads and processes in the review. I have no trouble believing that MacOS doesn't do so well with process gymnastics, but considering the way Apple itself leverages threads, I would assume those perform much better.I don't understand why Apache 1.3 was used here, Apache 2.0 has much better multiprocessor capabilities and would have allowed to test the difference between the request-are-handled-in-processes and requests-are-handled-in-threads ways of doing things.
Phil - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
#79: Wow. I had no idea that they were actually going to do it, I had assumed that it was typical industry nonsense!If this is true, then IMHO Apple won't be in much of a better position (with regards to this article) as they'll still need to work on the OS, regardless.
Can anyone speculate as to why they *really* want to switch to x86/Intel? I wonder if they'll consider AMD too...
rorsten - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
Uhm, the estimation for power consumption is completely wrong. The only significant CMOS power consumption - especially for an SOI chip - is the current required to charge or discharge the gates of the FETs, which only happens when a value changes (the clock accounts for most of the power consumption on a modern synchronous chip). Since we're talking about current only, this is purely resistive power, I^2R style, and since the current is related to the number of transitions per second, increasing the clock rate linearly increases the current which quadratically increases the power consumption.kamper - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
Here's another story about Apple and Intel from cnet:http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+t...
Interesting in the context of this article but I won't believe it without much more substantial proof :)
+1 on getting a db test using the same os on all architectures whether it be linux or bsd
+1 on fixing the table so that it renders in firefox
shanep - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
Re: NetBSD.Sorry, I just noticed it is not supported yet by NetBSD.
Forget I mentioned it.
shanep - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
"Wessonality: Our next project if we can keep the G5 long enough in the labs."How about testing these machines with NetBSD 2.0.2 to keep the hardware comparison on as close an equal footing as possible.
This should mostly remove many red herrings associated with multiple differences in software across different hardware.
michaelok - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
"i've had for awhile about OS X server handling large numbers of thread. My OS X servers ALWAYS tank hard with lots of open sessions, so i keep them around only for emergencies. T"Moshe Bar (openMosix) has been an avid Mac follower for years, I see he has a few suggestions for OSX, including ditching the Mach so you can run FreeBSD natively, which has much better peformance. In fact, thread performance is one of FreeBSDs strong points, although Linux has largely caught up.
Also research his Byte articles, you can see how a proper comparison can be done, although he does not claim to be a benchmarking expert.
http://www.moshebar.com/tech/?q=node/5
http://www.byte.com/documents/s=7865/byt1064782374...
johannesrexx - Saturday, June 4, 2005 - link
Everybody should use Firefox by default because it's far more secure. Use IE only when you must.