We knew it already too, and other stuff besides. But getting it confirmed direct from AMD is worth doing and reporting. Rumors are still rumors until confirmed.
Actually, March 2020. Bits 'n Chips, who has been reliable as a leaker, just got word that 5 GHz parts are on schedule for a release on Athlon's anniversary.
Things are getting crazy (or maybe that should be Crayz ?). I remember an article written a few years ago that predicted it would take until ~2030 before we had computers that could match the human brains ~1 exaflop of compute. And yet here we are looking at ~1.5 exaflop by maybe 2022....Amazing.
You're misremembering, most likely; I bet that article was talking about zettaflops, not exaflops - which is another factor of 1000x beyond Frontier, and 2030 still sounds about right for that...
What, you're not satisfied with the current offerings? Don't get me wrong, I like new hardware as much as the next guy (on this site). But I'm very (very!) happy with my TR 1920x. I've never been able to max all cores. Sure, some people do have workloads that will make it cringe, but they can get the 24 or 32 core models.
What I really like in the TR platform is the flexibility. I have three NVMe drivers going directly to the CPU. I use GPU and NVMe passthrough for a WIndows virtual machine. I have ECC memory. I also use PCIe passthrough of one of the USB controllers residing in the CPU (yeah, there are two of them there!) I can plug a SATA M.2 drive without sacrificing any of the SATA ports on the mainboard. In fact, I can plug a M.2-to-SATA adapter board and have another regular SATA port. I can mix and match any kind of hardware with no problem. It's the greatest CPU/MB combo I've ever had. And when the release the Zen2 based models, I can switch to one of them. Although I don't expect to be too much in a hurry...
What motherboard do you own? I've been looking for a Threadripper platform for an unRAID server with VMs for a while now. I'm currently using a 4 core XEON, and I wanna upgrade to many cores.
Mine is Asrock X399 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming (I hate the name!). It's basically the same as the X399 Taichi but with 10G Aquantia controller and a serial port. Believe it or not, the latter was important to me. It's the only one I know that has it and use it for configuring a GRUB&Linux serial console on it. It's only a header on the MB but I have spare brackets for mounting at the back.
Anyway, one thing to watch for is the clearance between the CPU socket and the first PCIe slot. On some it's too close and that orevents you from mounting one of the bigger air coolers. I'd never install a water cooler - I like my systems reliable and quiet. I got the biggest Noctua TR4 cooler and the system is dead quiet at idle.
Another thing is to have all features exposed. Like 3 M.2 sockets (some systems have only 2) and 8 SATA ports (some systems only go with 6).
My board has all these things and fits in standard FullATX size - most others are wider and can be a problem with some cases. I would suggest you go for a case with 8 or 9 expansion ports - like that you can mount a hefty GPU on the lowest PCIe slot.
It also supports 4x4 bifurcation of the x16 slots so you can mount a passive (i.e. without PCIe switch and thus relatively cheap) 4xM.2 adapter and have up to 7 M.2 slots without much sacrifice.
Finally, it has 5 fan headers two of wich support DC control so you can drive non-PWM fans off them. They all support PWM of course.
I can only think of two drawbacks. One is that all four network controllers are in the same IOMMU group so I cannot pass them through individually. But I think that's not too much of a problem even for 10G. And even Windows can be used with virtio-net once you install the driver. The other is that I have no idea what 95% of the BIOS options mean or do. And there's no documentation on these things. The built in help feature mostly repeats the name of the option.
Again, I'm very happy with the TR platform. There's nothing that you cannot do within reasonable limits. And you can start relatively cheap. I got my MB+CPU combo for 700 UK pounds with VAT included. I consider it a great price for all the capabilities I've got.
I was looking at one of the ASRock boards for my upgrade. I hear they're pretty good, and to get someone's honest opinion on it from having owned one, it makes the choice better. Thank you for that information. I currently have 4 SATA drives (2 SSDs and 2 HDDs, they're both in a software "RAID" array. I use quotes because unRAID takes care of data replication and such.) I'm planning on adding another HDD into the pool of hard drives, to increase my capacity. It will effectively be a RAID 5 once I do that. With the Third Gen Threadripper on the horizon, I think I can snag a good deal on a TR CPU now, and even that motherboard :)
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Eastman - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
You guys are always late to the party. AdoredTV kinda mentioned all of that already.Ian Cutress - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
We knew it already too, and other stuff besides. But getting it confirmed direct from AMD is worth doing and reporting. Rumors are still rumors until confirmed.JanW1 - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Must. Be. Fast!Who cares about verified and reliable content?
shabby - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
AdoredTV also confirmed 16core 5ghz zen2 chips...haukionkannel - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Heh! At year 2030 ;)Hifihedgehog - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link
Actually, March 2020. Bits 'n Chips, who has been reliable as a leaker, just got word that 5 GHz parts are on schedule for a release on Athlon's anniversary.Hifihedgehog - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link
So AdoredTV was right. The quoted dates were just a bit off as we have found is all.Eris_Floralia - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Most of the press already know that.The stuff press can tell ppl is usually just the tip of the iceburg.
Haawser - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Things are getting crazy (or maybe that should be Crayz ?). I remember an article written a few years ago that predicted it would take until ~2030 before we had computers that could match the human brains ~1 exaflop of compute. And yet here we are looking at ~1.5 exaflop by maybe 2022....Amazing.boeush - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
You're misremembering, most likely; I bet that article was talking about zettaflops, not exaflops - which is another factor of 1000x beyond Frontier, and 2030 still sounds about right for that...yankeeDDL - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Any news on Threadripper with Zen2 (or future) cores?kobblestown - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
What, you're not satisfied with the current offerings? Don't get me wrong, I like new hardware as much as the next guy (on this site). But I'm very (very!) happy with my TR 1920x. I've never been able to max all cores. Sure, some people do have workloads that will make it cringe, but they can get the 24 or 32 core models.What I really like in the TR platform is the flexibility. I have three NVMe drivers going directly to the CPU. I use GPU and NVMe passthrough for a WIndows virtual machine. I have ECC memory. I also use PCIe passthrough of one of the USB controllers residing in the CPU (yeah, there are two of them there!) I can plug a SATA M.2 drive without sacrificing any of the SATA ports on the mainboard. In fact, I can plug a M.2-to-SATA adapter board and have another regular SATA port. I can mix and match any kind of hardware with no problem. It's the greatest CPU/MB combo I've ever had. And when the release the Zen2 based models, I can switch to one of them. Although I don't expect to be too much in a hurry...
Xyler94 - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
What motherboard do you own? I've been looking for a Threadripper platform for an unRAID server with VMs for a while now. I'm currently using a 4 core XEON, and I wanna upgrade to many cores.kobblestown - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
Mine is Asrock X399 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming (I hate the name!). It's basically the same as the X399 Taichi but with 10G Aquantia controller and a serial port. Believe it or not, the latter was important to me. It's the only one I know that has it and use it for configuring a GRUB&Linux serial console on it. It's only a header on the MB but I have spare brackets for mounting at the back.Anyway, one thing to watch for is the clearance between the CPU socket and the first PCIe slot. On some it's too close and that orevents you from mounting one of the bigger air coolers. I'd never install a water cooler - I like my systems reliable and quiet. I got the biggest Noctua TR4 cooler and the system is dead quiet at idle.
Another thing is to have all features exposed. Like 3 M.2 sockets (some systems have only 2) and 8 SATA ports (some systems only go with 6).
My board has all these things and fits in standard FullATX size - most others are wider and can be a problem with some cases. I would suggest you go for a case with 8 or 9 expansion ports - like that you can mount a hefty GPU on the lowest PCIe slot.
It also supports 4x4 bifurcation of the x16 slots so you can mount a passive (i.e. without PCIe switch and thus relatively cheap) 4xM.2 adapter and have up to 7 M.2 slots without much sacrifice.
Finally, it has 5 fan headers two of wich support DC control so you can drive non-PWM fans off them. They all support PWM of course.
I can only think of two drawbacks. One is that all four network controllers are in the same IOMMU group so I cannot pass them through individually. But I think that's not too much of a problem even for 10G. And even Windows can be used with virtio-net once you install the driver. The other is that I have no idea what 95% of the BIOS options mean or do. And there's no documentation on these things. The built in help feature mostly repeats the name of the option.
Again, I'm very happy with the TR platform. There's nothing that you cannot do within reasonable limits. And you can start relatively cheap. I got my MB+CPU combo for 700 UK pounds with VAT included. I consider it a great price for all the capabilities I've got.
Xyler94 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
I was looking at one of the ASRock boards for my upgrade. I hear they're pretty good, and to get someone's honest opinion on it from having owned one, it makes the choice better. Thank you for that information. I currently have 4 SATA drives (2 SSDs and 2 HDDs, they're both in a software "RAID" array. I use quotes because unRAID takes care of data replication and such.) I'm planning on adding another HDD into the pool of hard drives, to increase my capacity. It will effectively be a RAID 5 once I do that. With the Third Gen Threadripper on the horizon, I think I can snag a good deal on a TR CPU now, and even that motherboard :)5080 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
PC World just published an interview with Lisa Sue and she confirmed that a new Threadripper based on Zen 2 is in the works.https://www.pcworld.com/article/3397917/amd-ceo-co...