Remember these results are smartphone tdp as pointed out but also dont take into consideration the bandwidth jump with lpddr3 not used here..and also new adreno drivers rumoured to be arriving with android 4.2.x
Of course it is perfectly possible that the results simply aren't final yet. However, is it possible that we have another heat problem at our hands, considering the fact that the N4 with the S4 Pro had exactly the same problem? I mean...of course we have Krait 300 cores now, but we still have the Adreno 320 GPU which is clocked even higher.
Another question: could someone explain why both the HTC One and the LG Optimus G Pro have LPDDR2 instead of LPDDR3?
The Nexus 4's problems have more to do with its construction, because the virtually identical Optimus G doesn't experience the heating problem as badly. Since the Optimus G Pro is an upgrade to the G instead of the N4, I think it's safe to say it won't have the problem.
As far as I remember, Anandtech wrote in their review of the Nexus 4 that the GLBench crashed on the Optimus G when they ran the tests sequentially (probably because it didn't throttle at all and the SoC was overheating which resulted in a crash). Because of that, they ran the benchmarks with some time in between. I think that's actually the reason they even thought of overheating in the N4 because they already had problems with the Optimus G.
Now I don't know whether the issue was resolved on the Optimus G afterwards or not. The results from the GLBench are a bit strange though, as the One also scored relatively low. So it's either throttling or a software/driver issue - let's just hope software :)
Isn't putting a nexus 4 in a freezer giving it an unfair advantage? Do you think any of the other phones are losing performance from thermal throttling (maybe nowhere near as severe as the Nexus)? It would be interesting to test them all in a freezer to find out
You can easily disable throttling in terminal. And I would not consider that unfair/unrealistic scenario, because Google Nexus is targeted at enthusiasts and it is really run in stock setup. It's generally the other way around. Testing stock Nexus is unrealistic.
If the galaxy S4 is not using exynos octa and is instead taking qualcom 600 , this phone has everything I need-- Good that they have a removable battery and an sd slot. Anand could you please post the amount of internal memory, and whether the sd card slot is compatible with 64 gb cards?
A15 is also a power hog, so it's hardly surprising it's going to trump as far as performance goes.
However, I agree that it's odd that people were expecting something big from what amount to a simple refresh with slightly higher clocks. I don't even get how it can be disappointing when it's performing on-par with (if not slightly better than) the iPhone 5's SoC, which everyone was tripping out over not too long ago.
It's "hip" to be a constant rag (covering up the poorboy I cannot buy it syndrome), pretending the highest end of the known world's research and development and top production pieces are "weak", as if they screwed up and the critic expects a better job because of course the critic would do a better job given their vast knowledge and cutting edge hipness, or are a fanboy of another device for some reason, including one with lower performance as it has some other stated advantage, like less with less but with a better percentage ratio.
I suspect however that 90% of the time selfish, self deluding neccessary, poorboy fanboy blowhard broken wallet syndrome.
Yup, The CPU is plenty powerful though... I think they must be expecting the S800. Which has faster CPU clock speed, but higher end GPU, Adreno 320 vs 330 in the 800
The benchmark results of the Exynos 5 are impressive, looks like CPU performance is 2x the iPhone 5, which is quite a feat, though the TDP is much greater.
a good concise article, though lacking in some details.
But disappointed that even YOU are taken in by the false premise that Aluminium is a "premium" material when it is just one of the weaker, cheaper and softer plastic around!
If you have not put in that comment that implies that G Pro does NOT feel high end enough because of its use of plastic, your article would have been perfect.
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rd_nest - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Disappointing results..MrSpadge - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Only if you've got unrealistic expectations.quiksilvr - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Realistic expectation: Outperform the Exynos 5.Result: LOL NO
metafor - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Not very realistic considering we're dealing with a tablet TDP vs smartphone.CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
I'd like to see the Galaxy Note 2 in the charts up there - wth - Brian tested it what's the prob...Ding dong derelict
french toast - Sunday, March 10, 2013 - link
Remember these results are smartphone tdp as pointed out but also dont take into consideration the bandwidth jump with lpddr3 not used here..and also new adreno drivers rumoured to be arriving with android 4.2.xeio - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
this is what galaxy note 3 should be. love the microSD slot and the removable battery.CeriseCogburn - Sunday, March 3, 2013 - link
Galaxy Note 2 already is this.sherlockwing - Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - link
This have 1080p display instead of GNote2's 720p.Chloiber - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Of course it is perfectly possible that the results simply aren't final yet. However, is it possible that we have another heat problem at our hands, considering the fact that the N4 with the S4 Pro had exactly the same problem?I mean...of course we have Krait 300 cores now, but we still have the Adreno 320 GPU which is clocked even higher.
Another question: could someone explain why both the HTC One and the LG Optimus G Pro have LPDDR2 instead of LPDDR3?
Froyorkshire - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
The Nexus 4's problems have more to do with its construction, because the virtually identical Optimus G doesn't experience the heating problem as badly. Since the Optimus G Pro is an upgrade to the G instead of the N4, I think it's safe to say it won't have the problem.Chloiber - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
As far as I remember, Anandtech wrote in their review of the Nexus 4 that the GLBench crashed on the Optimus G when they ran the tests sequentially (probably because it didn't throttle at all and the SoC was overheating which resulted in a crash). Because of that, they ran the benchmarks with some time in between. I think that's actually the reason they even thought of overheating in the N4 because they already had problems with the Optimus G.Now I don't know whether the issue was resolved on the Optimus G afterwards or not. The results from the GLBench are a bit strange though, as the One also scored relatively low. So it's either throttling or a software/driver issue - let's just hope software :)
flyingpants - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
6800mah.amdwilliam1985 - Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - link
LIKE.Maybe Galaxy Note 3 will have it :)
flyingpants - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Isn't putting a nexus 4 in a freezer giving it an unfair advantage? Do you think any of the other phones are losing performance from thermal throttling (maybe nowhere near as severe as the Nexus)? It would be interesting to test them all in a freezer to find outjonup - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
You can easily disable throttling in terminal. And I would not consider that unfair/unrealistic scenario, because Google Nexus is targeted at enthusiasts and it is really run in stock setup. It's generally the other way around. Testing stock Nexus is unrealistic.MadMan007 - Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - link
It's also listed on the charts under normal operating conditions.aranyagag - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
If the galaxy S4 is not using exynos octa and is instead taking qualcom 600 , this phone has everything I need-- Good that they have a removable battery and an sd slot.Anand could you please post the amount of internal memory, and whether the sd card slot is compatible with 64 gb cards?
aranyagag - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
it has a physical home button with capacitive back and menu buttonsaranyagag - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
internal memory is 32 GB and sd card is 64 GBKrysto - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
It seems Cortex A15 still kicks everyone's ass.But I don't know why people expected a huge improvement in S600. S600 is just S4 Pro at 1.7 Ghz, and with the SAME GPU as S4 Pro.
kyuu - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
A15 is also a power hog, so it's hardly surprising it's going to trump as far as performance goes.However, I agree that it's odd that people were expecting something big from what amount to a simple refresh with slightly higher clocks. I don't even get how it can be disappointing when it's performing on-par with (if not slightly better than) the iPhone 5's SoC, which everyone was tripping out over not too long ago.
CeriseCogburn - Sunday, March 3, 2013 - link
It's "hip" to be a constant rag (covering up the poorboy I cannot buy it syndrome), pretending the highest end of the known world's research and development and top production pieces are "weak", as if they screwed up and the critic expects a better job because of course the critic would do a better job given their vast knowledge and cutting edge hipness, or are a fanboy of another device for some reason, including one with lower performance as it has some other stated advantage, like less with less but with a better percentage ratio.I suspect however that 90% of the time selfish, self deluding neccessary, poorboy fanboy blowhard broken wallet syndrome.
retrospooty - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
Yup, The CPU is plenty powerful though... I think they must be expecting the S800. Which has faster CPU clock speed, but higher end GPU, Adreno 320 vs 330 in the 800http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on...
tuxRoller - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link
I believe AT said there are supposed to be IPC improvments on the order of 15%.However, that may be only for the Snapdragon 800.
coldpower27 - Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - link
The benchmark results of the Exynos 5 are impressive, looks like CPU performance is 2x the iPhone 5, which is quite a feat, though the TDP is much greater.funnyhog - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link
a good concise article, though lacking in some details.But disappointed that even YOU are taken in by the false premise that Aluminium is a "premium" material when it is just one of the weaker, cheaper and softer plastic around!
funnyhog - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - link
If you have not put in that comment that implies that G Pro does NOT feel high end enough because of its use of plastic, your article would have been perfect.